In our eighth podcast, “Before, After, and the Atomic Bomb,” Tessa and Dave remember the “before” and “after” of their lives in Sedona, Arizona and relate this to “before” and “after” the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki in 1945. They respond to “Oppenheimer,” the latest film by Christopher Nolan, about the father of the bomb. Hear their reflections on how the arts help us face shattering memories that many would rather forget or whitewash. Consider the paradox of a cruel and wondrous world. Then celebrate Hope—radical openness for the unimaginable—with a Ute poem about earth’s wisdom. Listen wherever you get your podcasts or find links here.